I am currently replacing an old Delta series system and wanted to exchange to a 14 series BTOB. Is my model of valve rough body what indicates what type of trim I can use? I am able to fully remove the trim, but am hesitant with purchasing until I know what is compatible.
Appreciate your time. To answer the compatibility question, we need to actually know the model number of the valve you have. That may not be something easy to determine without taking off the faucet trim kit and might require a plumber to assess.
I believe you will likely need to change the valve, however I understand that is a lot more work. It might be worth giving Delta a call to confirm and see if they have any ideas for how to adapt a new roman tub filler trim to an old style valve. They may also have ideas for how to figure out which valve you currently have. Do I need a rough in kit or will it work with the existing one now house was built in Hi Ana, the R valve is closed at the bottom and will not support the addition of a tub spout.
Delta does not recommend you run a tub spout off a diverter port because the water flow rate will be restricted. This means it is not a good idea to plumb a tub spout from a diverter port. The correct way to do this is to get a standard Delta tub shower valve with an open bottom port and use a tub spout with diverter.
If I bought valve R And trim kit Ara T with 6 settings could I have a shower head, a hand held and a tub faucet? I figure the tub faucet would be like the body sprays. Hi Kym, the the BL you plan to purchase can simply be screwed on to your existing shower arm and no changes will need to be made to the valve inside the wall. Just unscrew the old showerhead and screw on the new one.
If you have an old style Delta valve and plan to upgrade the control handles, then it would be necessary to also upgrade the valve. Meaning does the shower head above have to have the new after rough? Hi Karen, Series refers to a Delta shower cartridge included with the trim kit. It does not give enough information for us make a recommendation, because first you must figure out what rough-in valve you have.
If you have a new style installed after the year , R series Delta Multichoice rough-in valve, you can use any Delta trim kit, and will not be limited in any way. The only way to know for sure what trim kit will be compatible will be for you to know what valve you have. So I recommend asking your plumber for the valve model number or contacting Delta Faucet to get help identifying that. Once you know the valve model number you have, you will be able to figure out what trim kit will fit.
EST Saturday: 9 a. We are replacing out trim kit. Our plumber told us to get one that is compatible with series. How do I know which one is compatible? Could you explain what I need to be looking for? Hi Liz, so happy you found our Delta shower faucet guide helpful! Thanks very much for your kind words :. This guide was exactly what I needed to understand the choices for my bathroom remodel. I was utterly confused coming in, but feel confident I can choose the right pieces for my shower now.
Hi Jennifer, without changing the valve in the wall, you will not be able to update the shower control itself. In Delta made a major change to their valve and cartridge so the new trim kits will not fit a series valve. However, changing the tub spout and showerhead without touching the shower control is possible without changing the valve. The tub spout and showerhead simply attach to pipes coming out of the wall so those parts could be changed.
I have the delta series, would like to update shower head and tub spout without going in the wall and changing the valve. Which Delta kit can be used with the old series valve. Hi Matthew, unfortunately you will not be able to upgrade the trim kit wihtout changing the valve inside the wall. Delta made a major change to their valve in and the new style trim kits will not fit the old style valves.
The cartridges are also not going to be compatible between the new trim kits and old valves or vice versa. So in your case, you have 2 options. It is dripping, and instead of just replacing the cartridge, I thought I might upgrade the kit. From research, I understand the cartridge I need is the RP for the current setup. If I want to upgrade, will the valve in the wall accept an updated catridge, or can I only use a trim kit that works with the old cartridge?
And, are there any such trim kits? First off it is almost impossible to get a good plumber in my part of ETN. Most of the good ones shut down their businesses and went to work at Dollywood.
The ones that are left, except for one, look at me like I am trying to achieve the impossible. If you ask them to install a mixing valve most of the time the answer is a blank stare. My experience allows me to do my own repairs or mods with out having to explain what I want and I will achieve my final goal of reducing the stress on my well and septic. The remaining item on the mod list is the Cash Acme shower mixing valve and the adjustment of the Delta shower valves for the master shower.
I will prevail. Hi Gabriella, Based on what you are describing, unfortunately I think if you want to upgrade the trim kit you are going to have to change the valve in the wall. Delta no longer makes trim kits with a push-button diverter on the mixing valve plate like what you are describing.
Delta made a major change to their valve in and old valves are not compatible with new trim kits. It could be that Delta has some kind of retrofit solution which might be what your plumber suggested. It would be a good idea for you to discuss these options with your plumber. Additionally, you might want to give Delta a call directly just to see if they have any ideas for how you can keep your current valve. My plumer said with this kind of push button diverter I can only go with the same kind the diverter is in the plate not in the spout After reading this article I am questioning his recommendation.
Is there any other kits that would go without having to replace the valve? I have been searching everywhere to find at least a non chrome kit but seems like there is only one kind available. Hi Randy, thanks for your kind words. I will say that overall Delta customer service, if you call them, is quite good. Once in awhile you might get someone new, but many of their reps have worked there for years. We even sometimes call them with questions.
Ultimately with plumbing products, and showers in particular, jobsite experience is going to be better than any knowledge you can learn by studying. I am not a plumber, and neither are most Delta customer service people. Really there is no substitute for the hands on experience that comes from seeing how products install and perform in the field under many different circumstances.
There are a lot of variables to consider. Therefore a professional plumber is often going to be the best resource to get everything performing the way you want. Good luck with your project! I guess my water saving is still an ongoing experiment. I will adjust the temp to full hot and see how everything reacts to the mixing valve. If you could, please figure out a way to expand it and make it more accessible. Hi Randy, Due to anti-scald regulations, all Delta shower trim kits are going to cycle through the cold water first and then heat up.
I understand what you are trying to accomplish by saving the wasted cold water. Basically the sooner the warm water reaches the valve, the sooner the shower temperature will be ready to use.
If you can mimic this in your home with your tankless water heaters, there should be very little cold water wasted. In a typical home where the water heater is far away from the shower faucet, you literally have to wait for the warm water to pass through the pipes.
A tankless system could put warm water closer to the shower valve so it will be ready to use more quickly. Further questions might need to be directed to the tankless water heater company as they will likely know more details here.
Hope this helps! In an attempt to take some stress off of my well and septic system I have added 2 auxiliary tankless water heaters above the master bathroom. Yes, my main tankless is installed as far away from the master bath as is humanly possible without installing it in one of the out buildings. I have put 4 port Watts mixing valves on the vanity sinks and they work great.
Turn on the hot full tilt and forget about it. I have a Cash Acme 3 port mixing valve that I am going to put in the hot side after the shower auxiliary water heater so we do not have to be quick on the draw when the main water heater water finally arrives and the thermo change over valves bypass the auxiliary water heater.
Should I just set up my Delta Leland shower valve to as hot as it can go? I just want to turn the shower valve to full hot and let the CA mixing valve do the rest. Again, the purpose of these changes is to to limit the amount of wasted cold water coming out of the shower valve to destress the well and septic and if I can limit all of the cold water from the shower valve on initial start that is perfect.
Hi Melvin, I recommend you talk to your plumber as they may have some suggestions on how you can adapt the Delta tub spout for your situation. A good plumber will usually have knowledge about different fittings that might be available to convert a pipe so it will meet the requirements of the fixture you have. Unfortunately these things can sometimes be a little tricky but an experienced plumber will often have ideas how to solve a situation like you described.
I tried installing a Delta universal fit bath tub spout but it did not fit my water feed pipe. I need a spout that has a one inch diameter threaded female interior that screws onto a one inch male receptor water feed assembly. But those specs are not available in descriptions. Therefore I am quite certain you will not be able to use a new Delta tub shower trim kit or new Delta handles with your existing valves.
This basically means you have 2 options. I have a really old circa Delta 2-handle wall mount tub and shower installation. The finish is corroded. I want to upgrade the handles. Will post Delta handles mount to my old assembly, or would it be best to take them to a metal plating shop for re-plating, and continue to use the old ones? Hi Sheila, if you wish to add a handheld shower you will need to add some type of diverter.
You would either need an in wall diverter or a shower arm mount diverter. I am redoing master walk in shower no tub.
Got new universal rough in with Dryden shower head and trim kit. Decided to add handheld. Do we need to change the rough in valve or will universal cover both the shower head and the handheld? Hi Elias, in order to upgrade a pre Delta shower faucet set you will need to change the rough-in valve inside the wall. Basically, this means your plumber will cut out the existing valve and attach the new valve to your hot and cold water lines inside the wall.
Once you open up the wall to change the valve, you can literally choose any fixture you like. If I want to upgrade a pre Delta shower faucet set, spigot, control, and showerhead, what specifically do I need to do?
Is there a specific valve I need to purchase before doing this upgrade? The best next step for you would be to contact the manufacturer of your shower for help. They can also help you troubleshoot the installation. Their customer service representatives are very helpful and knowledgeable. Most big plumbing brands have very good product warranties and customer service departments.
Contacting the manufacturer will probably be the quickest way to solve your issue. Another option would be to call a professional plumber as they will also be a good resource when troubleshooting a problem with your shower cartridge like this. Hope this helps and good luck! When the handle is turned, the cartridge adjusts the flow and temperature of the water flowing from the faucet. Over time, the internal rubber seals of the cartridge wear down, causing the faucet handle to be hard to turn and allowing the cartridge to leak water.
When these symptoms appear, it is time to replace the cartridge. Turn off the water supply to the shower faucet; you may need to turn off the main water supply to the building.
Use an Allen wrench to loosen the set screw on the side of the faucet handle. Loosen the set screw by turning the set screw counterclockwise with the Allen wrench. Remove the handle by gently pulling it toward you. If that does't help there is an online chat with customer service or you can call them. Here is a link that might be useful: delta faucet website. I replaced the seats and springs in 2 - Delta 's today and found this link on garden web and it was very helpful.
I was stumped and had no idea how these things went together. Lowe's had all the parts I needed. Here is a link that might be useful: Delta Faucet repair guide. Delta faucets - difference between Home Depot and plumbing supply warehouse.
How to clean Kohler Brushed Nickel Faucets? Kingston Brass vs. Delta Shower Package. Instant hot water faucet to match this Delta champagne bronze kitchen. Hey guys. I haven't messed around with many faucets or anything plumbing related, but i was wondering if there is a fairly simple way to adjust the maximum hot on this faucet. Winter is drawing near and i would like to have hot showers. Just to cold at the moment for my liking. Any help would be appreciated.
If you want to adjust the max temp of the water, just take off the handle, and look at the mixing valve, it is really simple. There are at least two types. One I will call the "new" type, it has the hard limit stop built into the mixing valve, once the handle is removed, remove the retaining washer, and move the hard limit stop ring to the left for hotter, to the right for colder, there is a guage on the side of the mixing valve. The second is the original type that was in the faucet before I replaced it.
This one has a brass stop that mounts on the stem, and then a hat that sits over it to adjust the max temp, same thing left hot right cold. There is a retaining o-ring on this unit that will need to be slid out to adjust and back to keep the hard limit stop in place.
Keep in mind, if you move this hotter, all are you are doing is removing cold water from the mix, which will reduce the over all pressure. This has a major impact if you have water pressure problems already, as I do. I hope I helped someone, I know this post helped me! I'm sure you've already solved your problem, but for anyone else dealing with this, here's what I found. After removing the handle, remove the "Trim Sleeve". It's the smooth stainless sleeve covering the cartridge. It's not threaded so just twist it back and forth while pulling.
This will expose the "bonnet", a brass retaining nut with no flats. You can thread it off with Channellock pliers. I agree with you about the force required being too great and I'm sure I would be replacing my whole valve cartridge if I had forced it. Since the problem is clogging from deposits, you're going to want to remove the "Housing Assembly" blue portion as well.
In that case, leave the white and blue portions connected for now, grab the assembly by hand and pull straight outward while wiggling it slightly. I cleaned mine with CLR and it works great. Vinegar can be also used. Hope that helps. If one of the Delta series shower faucets begins to leak it is due to a faulty cartridge inside of the faucet head. Changing this cartridge and installing a brand new one matched to your particular model number, will correct the issue.
These cartridges contain valves that allow water to flow into the tub, and if they break or wear down, water leaks through them and into the tub.
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